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Ultrabooks:

Ultrabooks are super-thin and lightweight Windows laptops--perfect for mobile professionals and travelers. Although they started appearing on retail shelves in the fall of 2011 and there are now dozens of Ultrabooks in various sizes, configurations, and price points, Ultrabooks haven't quite hit their stride yet. That might change in 2013 when Ultrabooks sporting Intel's fourth-generation Haswell processor and more innovative interfaces appear. ~ September 11, 2012
What Intel's Next-Generation Processor, Haswell, Will Bring to Laptops

At the Intel Developer Forum in San Francisco on September 11th, Intel presented a sneak peak of its next-generation processor codenamed “Haswell.” The power savings and increased graphics performance over current Ivy Bridge chips are compelling reasons to wait until next year to buy an Ultrabook.

Intel Executive VP David (Dadi) Perlmutter said the 4th-generation Haswell microarchitecture will drive even thinner, lighter, and sleeker laptops than the Ultrabooks we’re seeing in the market today. Ultrabooks already weigh less than four pounds and are less than an eighth of an inch thick, so upcoming laptops will be so thin and light you might not even notice one in your briefcase. The drive towards ever-thinner and ever-sleeker laptops continues.

The low-power chips will operate at about 10 watts and be 20 times more efficient with idle power consumption compared to last year’s Sandy Bridge chips, Intel said. This would offer dramatically longer battery life, even though most Ultrabooks are already designed to last seven or more hours. The new chips might even double laptops' battery life. This means it may finally be possible to use a thin and light laptop for a transcontinental trip--without having to find an outlet or switch out the battery (a good thing always, but especially so because many ultrathin laptops these days, including Ultrabooks and the MacBook Pro Retina, lack replaceable batteries).

In addition to much longer battery life, Haswell laptops may have about twice the GPU performance of those using Ivy Bridge processors, Intel demonstrated with Unigine benchmarks. Haswell can also run at the same performance as Ivy Bridge but at roughly half the power. Ivy Bridge was already a pretty impressive improvement graphics-wise over Intel's second-generation Sandy Bridge, so Haswell’s improvements will be even more important to gamers and those who use graphics applications.

In addition, Intel is adding new hardware-based security features and instructions for faster encryption into the 22nm chips.

New Ultrabook Features for 2013:

Although Intel obviously isn’t explicitly telling people not to buy Ivy Bridge Ultrabooks, Perlmutter’s presentation indirectly showed other reasons we might want to hold off on an Ultrabook purchase until 2013. He demonstrated a number of new ways to interact with the laptops: gesture control, 3D cameras with facial recognition, and NFC paypass integration. This means you can ditch the keyboard and trackpad for a bit to wave commands at your laptop, sign in with your face, and tap a credit card to your laptop to instantly pay for an online purchase.

You will be able to talk to your laptop to command it earlier, though. Voice recognition and control via Nuance’s Dragon Assistant will be shipping with Ultrabooks in Q4 this year.

Buy Now or Wait?
Of course there will always be better laptops around the corner, so you can’t wait forever. The best course is to just buy the laptop that meets your requirements when you need one. (There are many Ultrabooks available for under $1,000 today that could meet most mobile computing needs.) However, if that happens to be in 2013 when the next-generation Haswell Ultrabooks come out, that’s all the better.


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Intel’s Haswell is an unprecedented threat to Nvidia, AMD

By Joel Hruska on September 14, 2012 at 11:00 am

Intel’s next-generation architecture, codenamed Haswell, isn’t just another “tock” in Intel’s tick/tock cadence; it’s a serious threat to both AMD and Nvidia. For the first time, Intel is poised to challenge both companies in the mainstream graphics market while simultaneously eroding Nvidia’s edge in the GPGPU business. Its low-power, 10W TDP ULV parts will challenge the price/performance ratio of AMD’s second-generation Brazos SoC (codenamed Kabini) as well as any ARM-based Windows 8 notebooks that companies like Qualcomm might bring to market.

Let’s take a look at the architecture, starting with the CPU.
Wider, deeper, faster


Haswell is a logical extension of the microarchtectural improvements Intel first introduced in Sandy Bridge. The new chip adds support for Intel’s second-generation Advanced Vector eXtensions (AVX2), which doubles the core’s peak FPU throughput. L1 and L2 bandwidth have been doubled to ensure the execution units stay fed, and the integer and FPU register files have all been enlarged. Branch prediction efficiency also gets a boost. Haswell’s real-world single-threaded performance in unoptimized code is expected to improve by 10-15%. In optimized, AVX2 code, the leap will be much larger; AVX2 includes support for integer vectorization that AVX lacks.

Haswell at a glance


AVX FPU comparisons

The increased FPU capability and additional AVX2 functionality make a huge difference in Haswell’s floating-point performance. The CPU is capable of up to 32 single-precision and 16 double-precision floating point operations per core. That’s twice what Sandy Bridge could achieve; a theoretical eight-core Haswell clocked at 3.8GHz will offer 972.8 gigaflops of SP and 486.4 gigaflops of DP performance. While it’s true that current GPUs exceed these levels, x86 compatibility is one heck of a carrot. Intel’s “good enough” argument sank the big iron RISC vendors of the 1990s and early 2000s, and it’s a real threat to Nvidia’s GPGPU momentum. The chip’s L1/L2 cache bandwidth is vastly increased from current levels; the L1 bus is twice as wide as well. The massive amounts of additional bandwidth are what the chip needs to keep the AVX2 units busy; Haswell should be able to hit a relatively high percentage of its peak theoretical gigaflops rate in real-world scenarios.

While Team Green will likely retain the overall performance advantage, a quad-core Haswell with a 4GHz Turbo mode will offer 256 gigaflops of double-precision floating point (512 gigaflops single-precision). That level of single-precision performance is right in the neighborhood of Nvidia’s GT 640. Because Nvidia has historically hobbled double-precision performance on consumer cards, quad-core Haswell could well outperform Nvidia’s GTX 680 and possibly pace the GTX 580 in DP operations.

Nvidia could win the battle at the high end, only to lose the war at other price points if Intel chooses to make an issue of it. Worse, there’s the fact that every single Nvidia-equipped HPC system comes with an Intel solution by default. Make no mistake, Intel is playing up the potential Xeon Phi connection; three of the company’s IDF seminars addressed vectorization for both Haswell and Xeon Phi.
Haswell’s GPU turns the screws on Nvidia, AMD

Haswell’s GPU is a tweaked version of the cores currently deployed in Ivy Bridge. What’s really changing is the shader loadout; Intel will offer Haswell in 10, 20, and 40-shader flavors (GT1, GT2, and GT3). The chip will also be offered in variants that include up to 128MB in on-package RAM, a feature that provides the GPU with a small dedicated pool of memory. Intel isn’t talking much about the GPU changes, but the company has stated that the new GT3 configuration offers “up to 2x” the performance of Ivy Bridge’s HD 4000 graphics.

Haswell-GPU

Even a conservative take on that promise spells trouble for AMD and Nvidia. According to figures from Anandtech, Trinity’s GPU is an average of 18% faster than Llano’s across a range of 15 popular titles. Compared to Sandy Bridge, Trinity was almost 80% faster. Against Ivy Bridge, it’s just 20% faster. Given what we know of Haswell’s GPU shader counts and performance targets, it shouldn’t be hard for Intel to deliver a 30-50% performance boost in real-world games. If it does, Trinity goes from the fastest integrated GPU on the market to an also-ran, and AMD loses the superior graphics hole card it’s been playing since it launched the AMD 780G chipset four years ago.

Sunnyvale has virtually no room to maneuver. The company’s 28nm Kaveri APU, with its next-generation graphics core based on the HD Radeon 7000 and the new Steamroller CPU reportedly has yet to tape-out. That means it could be the tail end of 2013 before we see the chips, assuming that production goes smoothly. AMD will likely offer a “Trinity 2.0″ update to stem off Haswell’s onslaught, but slightly higher clocks aren’t going to be enough to keep Intel from matching AMD’s performance.

Chipzilla vs. AMDAMD’s last bastions are the markets Intel doesn’t really want. It’s an unsustainable position for any company that dreams of challenging the market leader; AMD literally can’t afford the R&D it would take to catch up to its erstwhile rival. You won’t find Nvidia gloating — well, not much. Intel’s literature makes it plain that the company absolutely intends to minimize the value of separate GPUs by incorporating performance where it can and driving the adoption of ever-smaller form factors where it can’t.

Barring a major screw-up, it’ll be Haswell, not Kaveri, that crosses the “good enough for enthusiasts” line first. The chip’s 10W power envelope won’t directly compete with any potential Tegra 4-based tablets — that’s what Bay Trail, Intel’s out-of-order 22nm Atom SoC is for.

No, Haswell won’t drive AMD out of business or frighten Nvidia into dumping Tesla — but unless Intel completely blows its roadmap, it’ll drive both companies further towards the margins of computing. For AMD, that move is very literal; the company is being forced into the low-end products that Intel doesn’t want to bother with. For Nvidia, it means scrambling to convince OEMs to allocate space for discrete GPUs at a time when Intel’s marketing dollars and consumer preferences are aligned against it. Enthusiast preferences, Intel’s historically weak driver support, and Nvidia’s own brand recognition will help, but the IT industry is littered with the bones of companies that treated their brand as an unassailable bulwark rather than a sand castle. Enthusiasts that care about performance tend to follow it, wherever it goes.
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